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Friday, June 12, 2026
- dmlloydany bazel fans in the house?
- dmlloydI can't say I am, because of some really weird decisions they made, but a Quarkus contributor wrote an (admittedly AI-assisted) essay about Quarkus+bazel integration that is frankly a fascinating read: https://github.com/quarkusio/quarkus/discussions/54762
- nevetFirst-class Bazel support for Quarkus · quarkusio/quarkus · Discussion #54762
- javabotdmlloyd's title: "First-class Bazel support for Quarkus · quarkusio/quarkus · Discussion #54762 · GitHub"
- dreamrealI'm not exactly a bazel fan, because it's sort of a broad tool
- dreamrealbut the polyglot nature of bazel might make sense for the java-25-ffm-enabled world
- cheeserwe use it in most of our repos here except for the kotlin/micronaut repo i work most of the time in.
- cheeserstill no fucking clue how to use it. i let claude figure it out and hope for the best.
- dreamrealI've got gradle calling out to rust for a native module
- Tenchidreamreal: how do people handle the java ffm world at the moment ?
- dreamreal"poorly"
- dreamrealwe actually have to use JNI, as we formally target Java 17
- Tenchii was just typing '"poorly" is a valid response'
- dreamrealWe can't enable FFM for our clients
- cheeseryou can if you have the will to. if you're strong enough.
- dreamrealSpoken like someone who doesn't know who our clients are :D
- cheesernor care! ;)
- dreamrealor care, right :D
- cheeser(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
- dreamrealbesides, JNI is working for our spikes... well enough that we might be able to get the spikes accepted
- jbosmansi thought ffm was still in preview as of 25, but realized i confused it with the vector api
- jbosmans*got it mixed up with
- dmlloydsmart people use `smallrye-ffm` 🧠
- ParaI might actually next week try to do Something with it.
- comrad I use the Java 25 ffi just today. Seems nice than creating header files for JNI
- dreamrealdmlloyd: does it work on java 17, though
- dmlloydit'll work on java 17 code... you'll get some errors at run time though!